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Romans 8:29-39 Print E-mail
Written by Oshea Davis   
Thursday, 17 July 2014

Romans 8:29-39


The Unstoppable Love of the God


Whom God fore-loved[1], He also predestined; and,[2] whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?

 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?

 Who shall bring a charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies.

 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.

 Who shall separate us from… the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


God was not forced to love His chosen ones.  He did not receive a highly reasoned argument from an angel as to why He ought to make them one with His Son, who is one with Him. There was not an outside standard of logic, love or justice that taught God[3] that He should not or should save some nasty creatures: with the fallen angels He in fact did not. God is the freest of all beings: actually, He is the only being whom intrinsically and solely process freedom. God does not get surprise by the future or by new information; but rather, He is immutable, for He knows the future because He made it decree by decree. God designs the future from scratch by and for His personal goals.   Therefore, when God makes a choice it is completely by His freedom, initiative, wisdom and love; without any outside force, power, knowledge, or argument influencing Him.  This is why God’s choices are final and irrevocable. That is, His choices/decrees are exactly what He wants, and so He will see it through to the end: because, they are exactly what He wants.   Since there is no internal conflict with the Divine Mind, since there is no standard above God, and since the possibility of new information appearing does not exist, then God’s choices are final, irrevocable and exactly what He wants: He will see them through to the very end.

          And so, created beings have their meaning in accordance to their relationship to these personal goals and desires of God.

          What this means is that there is only two types of people groups scattered across this blue sphere spinning in the cosmos. Non-Christians like to put their foot on the neck of God and bow Him to serve them. However, like the Philistines when they put their foot on the the Ark of the Covenant and shoved it into the temple of Dagon, it was Dagon who bowed not the Infinite Existence. Nonetheless, the inferior intellect and the gullibility of non-Christians keeps them re-attempting what Philistines did. Today, you hear that God loves everyone: that He works out all things for good for just about anyone. Even homosexuals say God works their unnatural sexual intercourse for their good. People will say God is for Americans, or that, today is the day of God being for the Asians (etc.)  But another non-Christian will say God is for the blacks, or for the whites or for poor, or for the rich: for men or for women.

          However, as we have seen the only group which God for-loved and works all things for their good are those chosen ones that He before time began predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son. These same people, God, decree by decree, and then in time, step by step, calls them to be sons and daughters by almighty power, and then He justifies them, and finally glorifies them to be with Him forever. The point of Paul using a logical sorites in this verse is precisely to show that the same group that was at the beginning is the exact same group (without any addition or subtraction) at the end.  This is the only group that God works all things for their good.  What we see is that in Jesus Christ God puts His foot on the neck of His chosen ones sin, and then pulls them out of their just condemnation and brings them up in glorious power into the very heavens of heavens.  On the reverse we see that God is the one with His boot on the neck of all non-Christians ensuring that even the temporary good they received on earth is used to fatten them up and weigh them down further into condemnation and flames.


         ...   Satan tried to put his foot God’s neck, and when he did he took one third of the angels with him when God threw Satan out of heaven. However, in the end he only needed up bruising Jesus’ heal, while it was Jesus’ foot that crushed Satan in His death and resurrection. Satan has by this worked out things for his bad, not good. Humans, who likewise have a similar mind as Satan think of small inward things, and do not comprehend God’s way of thinking and power. Matthew 16:23, “But [Jesus] turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men." Since the creation of the world there are only two groups of people. Those whose Father is God Almighty and those whose father is Satan.  Believers of the words that proceed from the mouth of God, and those who disbelieve the words that proceed from the mouth of God.  Saints or sinners. Lovers of God, or lovers of the world.  Those saved by God and those rejected by God.  Those loved by God, with His superior power, grace and wisdom; and those loved by the world with its inferior thinking, pride and power.

          Wicked men, even in the church, will twist the most rudimentary and obvious doctrines and say things like they are saved when they chose God by their own free will.  They will work and affirm the sins of others—for exchange of others who graduated at the same universities as they did—to work and affirm their sins, and then say God works all things for their good.  They go on and on about how they are able, through their choices, to liberate themselves and work their life for good. After they are done, one wonders if we ought to forget Jesus completely and go back to building the Tower of Babel since human beings are so talented. However, if one recalls what has been said before, if one is wrong to begin with, because they do not have the right epistemology to begin with, then this concept of change/liberate oneself to betterment is a manmade delusion to hide the fact they were wrong and still are. From the start they are on the wrong and inferior path.

          Unbelievers, in fact—whether in the church or in the world—invent all types of stupid imaginations and human speculations to convince themselves that things are working for their good. Science, which an 8 year old girl could logically defeat in a few minutes, is a hugely popular speculation of men. Yet, science is irrational from the ground up.  It is inductive, its epistemology is observations and the senses, and lastly it uses experimentation, which is a systematic use of the fallacy of, affirming the consequent. They are always progressing, but they never attain immorality, honor and glory.   One day they supposedly discovered this truth, to only then, a few months later renounce this truth and supplant it with another one that is completely opposite; to which in a little time will be changed again. They are supposedly working to a better future, a future, which by the standard of empiricism has nothing to say, for empiricism is about temporary transit moments, and thus cannot speak about the past, universals, the future or even the present. This is a mask to cover up the fact they are intellectual morons, whose imaginations amount to skepticism and the denying of the law of noncontradictions.[4] Their speculation cannot even give truth or knowledge, period.  It cannot even give knowledge about this reality we live in (such as what is good?); and so, it is of the greatest sort of fantasy of man to think his speculation has power to make things work to their good. Non-Christians are so habituated with their self-delusions they are enslaved by them, as in a constant real of horror seen the Twilight Zone.

          The sad reality is that because men are born with a sinful nature suppressing the truth of God, their minds have become so shabby they cannot even grasp and imagine eternal principles and knowledge.  Because man cannot grasp the good path or the right epistemology, they turn inward to find a way of thinking about the world. This has a debasing effect, and it shrinks man’s thinking so that they would even imagine that such things as science is able to give truth and help save them! All their distorted views of theology, anthropology metaphysics, science, first principles and religion all end up with self-refuting skepticism. This is the abyss and inferior state of mind that man lives in. So of course they cannot work all things for their good. And only by repenting and having the courage to trust in Jesus Christ will such a great reality overtake any person. 

          God on the other hand tells us He had a goal from the beginning and so, as He created the worlds out of nothing, He thus, creates His chosen ones out of nothing, directs them, and molds them to be the perfect audience for His Son Jesus Christ. God tells Jerimiah that (1:5) "Before I formed you in the womb I [loved] you; Before you were born I sanctified you.” God’s love to Jeremiah is the power that made him have faith in God. That is, in God’s decrees, before people make good or bad decisions (Romans 9:11) God determines to either love or hate them; that is, to direct their paths for good or for destruction.

          The story of history is by God’s pen stroke: He is the author of all things, according to His goals for the world; just as a writer of a novel writes out the stories particulars according to the ending of the story, which He initially concluded on, before he began writing.  God writes out the story of His chosen ones. Whom God fore-loved He predestined. In His initial thoughts, He conceives them to be an audience and bride to Christ and so one day in history He knits them together in their mother’s womb. Because they are children of disobedience as the others, Jesus Christ was sent, and at a place and time God’s Son absorbed the Father’s wrath, and He already put His infinite righteousness in to their accounts. Whom He predestined He calls. Therefore, the God who called the worlds into being out of the void of darkness, calls these barren sinful souls out of darkness into His marvelous light. He gives them faith as a gift, that is, the same power that raised Jesus out of the grave and thrust Him to the Father’s right hand is the same power that is used to lunge an unbelieving soul into spiritual life so that they believe and keep believing(Ep. 1:19)!  Whom He calls He justifies in His Son. The Father elected His Son to be a Redeemer and the Son accomplishment salvation for the saints, and He did this with no thanks to them, for Jesus did all the work Himself.  God then fills them with His Spirit, which is a “law of life” and a testimony within them that they are children of God, and this Holy Spirit is a mighty power within them, which leads them to heaven as their guarantee.

          Man is not judge of the world. Satan, or even angels are not such judges. Sinful men speculations do not judge the world, for they cannot even describe it. There is no standard or law over God. God is the law and judge. God is our judge, and in particular He has given judgment of men over to His Son who is the “Son of Man.”  Who cares if Jack or Jill or Satan or a so called god says they judge you. They have no authority over heaven or hell. God does. If Jesus Christ in great love and in great mercy died for you, then of course He will work all things for your good.  God has already judged all saints as righteous on the Day of Atonement when Jesus, at that place and time, paid for their sins and gave His blood to the Father to be placed into the saint’s accounts at that time. Thus, you have already been judged as clean and belonging to Jesus Christ. Therefore, who is able to pronounce any other destiny over you, oh Christian? You are espoused to the Judge of the world.  He is yours and you are His. Of course, (1)now we freely receive from God all good things that pertain to faith, hope and perseverance—working even our suffering for eternal glory; (2)and in the world to come, we will freely receive from our Father all things good that pertain to seeing Jesus face to face.  He will withhold nothing good from us. The same power that holds God’s love to Jesus, and Jesus to the Father, which is the infinite unstoppable energy of the Spirit will insure the saints are never separated from the love of God, because they are now imaged after and espoused to Jesus Christ.  The fore-loving God brought them into being; the love of God called them; the love of God justified them, and now the love of God will hold them until they are pillars standing in the temple of God. This is joy; this is righteousness on display; this is peace; this is the life of the Spirit in the hearts of God’s chosen people.

“God foreloved the chosen ones. Then these same individuals are predestined to become like the Son of God. Then, these same individuals are called. The same individuals that are called, are justified. And the same individuals that are justified, are glorified. The exact individuals were specified when God foreloved them. After this stage, no one enters or leaves this predefined group. For the present passage, the essential thing is that no one leaves. The individuals at the point of foreknowledge are the same individuals that he sees through all the way to glorification. What does this mean? It means that God is for us, that he is for us at every stage, and that he will be for us constantly, and over and over again. And he will never withdraw his favor because he was the one who foreloved us in the first place. The whole process was his idea, and he will see it through.

 If God is for us, who can be against us? He sent his Son to die for us. Everything else is trivial in comparison, and nothing can hinder the completion of redemption. Who will bring any charge against us? Accusations can come from all sides, but God has justified us. God is in fact the only one whose charge carries any weight, and he accuses those who remain in unbelief, who remain non-Christians. Who is he who condemns us? Condemnation is all talk unless it can lead to a guilty verdict and result in punishment. But Jesus Christ has already died for our sins and has risen from the dead. He continues to represent us and speak for us at the right hand of God. God is in fact the only one whose condemnation leads to a guilty verdict and ends in eternal suffering. And he declares that those who do not believe in Jesus Christ are already condemned (John 3:18).

No one can condemn us, and no one can bring a charge against us, not because we have never done wrong, but if there is any charge or any condemnation, Jesus Christ has answered it. Therefore, we denounce sin and proclaim righteousness without embarrassment. Surely we would feel self-conscious and hypocritical if we were to declare our own goodness, but as the heralds of Christ we preach about his righteousness and his salvation.

Who can separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus? Only God can extend or withhold his love, and by his foreordination and through Jesus Christ, he has extended his love toward his chosen ones. No one is stronger than God. No one forced or persuaded him to love us, and no one can force or persuade him to stop. He has decided, and he will not change. The love of God toward us is immutable and invincible.

We are so pleased with the Christian life. It is righteous and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit! And just as we are overcome by the exceeding kindness that God has already lavished upon his people, he reminds us that the best is yet to come.”[5]

[1] Verse reads foreknew; however, a more precise meaning of foreknew in this context means to fore-love.

[2] I did a slight editing of the verse to shorten it.

[3] Isaiah 40:14,15, “With whom did He take counsel, and who instructed Him, And taught Him in the path of justice? Who taught Him knowledge, And showed Him the way of understanding? Behold, the nations are as a drop in a bucket, And are counted as the small dust on the scales."

[4] For more see my book: The Undefeatable Worldview, Lulu, 2014.

[5] Vincent Cheung, Sermonettes Vol.5, All Things for Our Good, 2010, 66-67


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