Below is a quote from an unknown person, which I conversed with on the Internet.
“In essence, they [Adam and Eve] started the process of redemption and created a desperate need for God in their everyday lives. That in itself brought more glory to God.”
That would bring mostly Glory to God and some to mankind for helping our God with setting up a great scenario for God to work His power and Glory.
The above statement is one that attempts, whether the person directly means to or not, to steal Gods Glory for which He said He would share with no one. If God did not ordain the fall, then mankind would deserve at least a small part of the Glory. There is no way out of it. God said let “honor” be given to who its needs to be given to, if humans are responsible for starting the right scenario for God to work His redemption, then God does not deserve all the Glory for the Good produce as the end result.
Example if a businessman says “I just got lucky with an awesome deal.” In reality what he is saying is that he(the business man) does not deserves all the credit. For if the other person didn’t goof up so bad on his end, he would have never pulled it off. Accordingly if Adam and Eve did not goof up so bad then God would have never been able to plan our redemption like He did through His glorious Son. God got Lucky and, now because of the sin of Adam and Eve, He is now able to display His Glory of His mercy in a perfection that if there were no sin or evil at the expense of Adam and Eves sin, then this Glory of God would not have be as perfectly displayed.
But thank goodness to Adam and Even we all now can see Gods Glory the best way possible, right?
Timothy 1:9, "according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began."
God then decree the below reality because of the previously above decree.
BBE Proverbs 16:4, “The Lord has made everything for his purpose, even the sinner for the day of evil.”
Here it is evident that WE were chosen in Christ before the world began. Meaning that if God planned Redemption through Christ to give Him Glory then God had to have planned the fall. To suppose God willed the Fall does not make God the author of Evil as some suppose. All of Gods decrees are eternal but still there are some order to them. That God first willed to display His Glory and then to do it through showing mercy and love to humanity is wise on Gods part, all of it. God does not in a positive influence make a person to will evil. All He needs to do is remove a little of His positive good influence from the creature. Example: Just as the sun is not the author of the darkness of night on the earth. Thus man is the author of evil and not God.
“The objection to the divine decrees will be, that according to this doctrine, God may do evil, that good may come of it.
ANS. I do not argue that God may commit evil, that good may come of it; but that he may will that evil should come to pass, and permit that it may come to pass, that good may come of it. It is in itself absolutely evil, for any being to commit evil that good may come of it; but it would be no evil, but good, even in a creature, to will that evil should come to pass, if he had wisdom sufficient to see certainly that good would come of it, or that more good would come to pass in that way than in any other. And the only reason why it would not be lawful for a creature to permit evil to come to pass, and that it would not be wise, or good and virtuous, in him so to do, is, that he has not perfect wisdom and sufficiency, so as to render it fit that such an affair should be trusted with him. In so doing he goes beyond his line; he goes out of his province; he meddles with things too high for him. It is every one’s duty to do things fit for him in his sphere, and commensurate to his power. God never entrusted this providence in the hands of creatures of finite understandings, nor is it proper that he should.
If a prince were of perfect and all-comprehensive wisdom and foresight, and he should see that an act of treason would be for the great advancement of the welfare of his kingdom, it might be wise and virtuous in him to will that such act of treason should come to pass; yea, it would be foolish and wrong; if he did not; and, it would be prudent and wise in him not to restrain the traitor, but to let him alone to go in the way he chose. And yet he might hate the treason at the same time, and he might properly also give forth laws at the same time, forbidding it upon pain of death, and might hold these laws in force against this traitor.
Objectors to the doctrine of election may say, God cannot always preserve- men from sinning, unless he destroys their liberty. But will they deny that an omnipotent, an infinitely wise God, could possibly invent and set before men such strong motives to obedience, and keep them before them in such a manner, as should influence them to continue in their obedience, as the elect angels have done, without destroying their liberty? God will order it so that the saints and angels in heaven never will sin, and does it therefore follow that their liberty is destroyed, and that they are not free, but forced in their actions? Does it follow that they are turned into machines and blocks, as the Armenians say the Calvinistic doctrine turn men?” (Jonathan Edwards “Concerning the Divine Decrees in General and Election in Particular.”)
So the answer to the question I first asked is, No, God does not get lucky, but instead all the good produced in the world and even the evil which leads to more good being produced is all credited the Almighty Gods preplanned wisdom. Genesis 50:20, "But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant [planned] it [the evil] for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive.” The Hebrew word here for “meant” is also translated “planned.” The word for “it” in our verse is Hebrew feminine singular which refers to the feminine singular word “evil.” God planned, not used, but planned for evil to be done to Joseph by the hands of His brothers so that God could bring about much good by saving many people alive. This is God’s right to order human history as He so wishes for He made all things and has full owner rights over it. This is God’s Glory that all the good produced in the universe is 100% credited to God’s Wisdom and direct goodness, no one else can take that from Him, for God alone is directly responsible for all good produced from the beginning to the end of it. Ecclesiastes 7:8, “The end of a thing is better than its
beginning.”
God knows what He is doing. We would all be wise to admire His wisdom and love, and not question Him about. We would be wise to marvel at God endless wisdom and not attribute blindness or deficiency to Him, who is the First and the last the Alfa and Omega.
Yours in Christ: oshea davis
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